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anne.or
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Posted - 14 June 2010 :  16:46:40  Show Profile  Visit anne.or's Homepage  Reply with Quote
does the official receiver take DLA into account for income I am only on benefits

chester2005
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Posted - 14 June 2010 :  16:54:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi and welcome to the forum
yes the OR takes into account all benefits means tested and non means tested ie DLA
however if you are solely in receipt of benefits then no IPA will be sought regardless of your DI


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Jane.l
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Posted - 15 June 2010 :  08:26:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This contradicts this advice

http://www.iva.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=1&TOPIC_ID=29994#288484

wonder which is the correct one?
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Karen Jane
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Posted - 15 June 2010 :  10:42:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi
When I declared in September 09, most of my income was from benefits income support, housing benefit, child tax credit and child benefit, I also receive child maintenance and my OR said that he would have to go away and look at my I & E to see if there was room for an IPA, so in light of this I think you can get an IPA whilst on benefits it just depends on any other income that you may have coming in.

Karen xx
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Daniel Griffiths
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Posted - 15 June 2010 :  13:56:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Usually if the income is soley benefit income with receipt of DLA an Income Payments Order is not enforced but an Income Payments Agreement can be agreed by both parties
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chester2005
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Posted - 15 June 2010 :  15:32:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
a quote from the insolvency service technical handbook.
31.7.9 State benefits

June 2009

An IPA should not be sought where the bankrupt's only source of income is state benefit. In the context of this chapter "state benefits” refers to all forms of income supplement and support provided by central or local government including, but not limited to: income support, job seekers allowance, disability living allowances, incapacity benefit, council tax benefit, housing benefit, state retirement benefit, child benefit and all forms of tax credit (child, working and pension).

check it out yourself at
http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/freedomofinformation/technical/TechnicalManual/Ch25-36/Chapter31/part7/part2/part_2.htm

it is quite clear that all income is considered and an IPO should not be sought if all income is from benefits


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chester2005
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Posted - 15 June 2010 :  15:36:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you can get an IPA whilst on benefits but it cannot exceed the amount of non benefit income you receive.
if solely on benefits no IPA/O
if the OR sees you have lots of DI and you are solely on benefits he may ask if you voluntarily wish to contribute towards your debts but there is no requirement to do so.
this would be a voluntary IPA quite different from a normal IPA which if you refuse they can pursue you for an IPO

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debtinfo
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Posted - 15 June 2010 :  18:09:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok, the official advice for this changed last year which is why you have a miss match in answers, some from the old rules some from the new.

Chesters advice is correct, they take all incomes in to account when you working out your surplus. this includes all benefits that the bankrupt receives including DLA. Remember also that if you are receiving DLA then you must have some care costs which will also be on your expenses list.

The surplus must come out of the non benefit part of the income. If the surplus is bigger then the non benefit part then the non benefit part will be used rather than the surplus for determining the IPA.

Here the IS has provided several examples of how this is worked out
http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/freedomofinformation/technical/TechnicalManual/Ch25-36/Chapter31/part7/Annex%20A.htm

The only point i would disagree with chester on is the voluntary contributions. This certainly used to be the case but was always ill conceived, and last year they decided that they would no longer ask for voluntary contributions
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