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andycase007
Starting Member

United Kingdom
13 Posts

Posted - 07 September 2010 :  10:56:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi All
These are the details i am thinking of putting into my and the wifes SOA
We have 1 child 2yrs old and wife is pregnant with number 2

My Income £1642
Wifes Income £715
Child Benefit £80
Child Tax Credit £42
Total Income £2299

Mortgage 585
Council Tax 120
Gas/Elec 82
Water 32
Home Ins 14
Life Ins 44
Car Ins 45
TV Lic 12
BT 12
Sky 32 - i know they wont allow it but thought i would put it down anyway
Broadband 10 - i need it for work
Car Tax 15
MOT/Repairs etc 30.
Holiday 20
Hse Keeping 490 - we need to get things for the baby i.e pushchair, cot etc
Meals at work 50
Fuel 100
Total joint expenditure which will be on both our SOA - £1693

My expenses
Mobile 25
Clothing 60
Dentisit/Opt 10
Hair 10
Dry Cleaning 10

Wifes expenses
Mobile 25
Clothing60
Dentist/Opt 10
Hair 15

Total Expenses overall £1918

Disp Income 381.00
70% 266.00 IPA Approx

What do you think?
On the SOA form it asks for amount partner contributes. So on both forms i was going to put the amount of wage left over after personal expenditure has gone out?

moodybluetwo
Junior Member



156 Posts

Posted - 07 September 2010 :  12:06:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think you have to convince the OR that these are realistic values...they have lots of experience from many people going BR. If you can back up your calculations you have nothing to worry about.
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andycase007
Starting Member

United Kingdom
13 Posts

Posted - 07 September 2010 :  12:10:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi
Thanks for your reply.
Theres lots of people on here that have done this before and looked at other peoples SOA's, so i am just hoping that they can check it over and make sure that i havent missed something etc.

Anyone?

Cheers
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moodybluetwo
Junior Member



156 Posts

Posted - 07 September 2010 :  12:19:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Try the Household Expenditure Spreadsheet and Income Payments Calculator from this link.
http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/freedomofinformation/technical/TechnicalManual/Ch25-36/Chapter31/part7/part2/part_2.htm
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andycase007
Starting Member

United Kingdom
13 Posts

Posted - 07 September 2010 :  12:41:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi
Thanks - have looked at this and although it's helpful, it's a bit vague on the extras, plus it doesnt cater for 2 adults and 1 child. I am hoping someone who has been through it all and has experience can just take a quick scan over my figures to see if, in their experience of being on this site, they are reasonable or likely to pose a problem.

Thanks
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Jane.l
Average Member

511 Posts

Posted - 07 September 2010 :  13:22:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Its over 3 years now since I went bankrupt but my views are:

Life insurance- don't think this will be allowed

Sky -no

Holiday- depends on the OR

housekeeping is high-probably be cut

meals at work- high, maybe allowed a smaller amount, not sure




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Skippy
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United Kingdom
3290 Posts

Posted - 07 September 2010 :  14:46:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with Jane. You may also find out that mobiles have to come from your surplus as you have a landline.

View my blog at http://skippy13.blogs.iva.co.uk/

Only when the last tree has died, the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realise that we cannot eat money.

Last IPA payment made on 28th June 2010 - it's over at last!
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stuart30
Starting Member

United Kingdom
12 Posts

Posted - 07 September 2010 :  23:13:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If sky or in my case Virgin isnt allowed then what about the contract,im only half way through mine.?

Im just an umemployed bum....
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Jane.l
Average Member

511 Posts

Posted - 08 September 2010 :  08:08:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you will have to pay it out of your surplus or if you cannot afford it and the contract dates from before your bankruptcy date, then I assume the debt will just have to go in the bankruptcy
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debtinfo
forum expert



2826 Posts

Posted - 08 September 2010 :  08:48:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you can break the contract any any fee would go into the bankruptcy
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Reviva UK
Advanced Member

United Kingdom
2452 Posts

Posted - 08 September 2010 :  09:11:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just remember that it would be difficult to retain your old number while still in a contract

Paul Johns
Bankruptcy Specialists
Reviva UK
www.revivauk.com

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andycase007
Starting Member

United Kingdom
13 Posts

Posted - 08 September 2010 :  10:54:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If the OR decides that my mobile has to come out of the disposable income, can i then decide to break the contract? Or do i need to break it before?
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Reviva UK
Advanced Member

United Kingdom
2452 Posts

Posted - 08 September 2010 :  11:06:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You are allowed an expense for telephone useage. Even if you are unemployed it is reasonable to have an allowance because you may be looking for a job.

The easiest way to cancel the phone contract is either not to pay or to phone the company and let them know you are now bankrupt. They usually cancel the contract at that point. Naturally if they cancel the contract because of the Br clause at the time of the Br then any shortfall would be included in the bankruptcy.

Paul Johns
Bankruptcy Specialists
Reviva UK
www.revivauk.com
08454 751 851

Real People ..... Real Debt Solutions
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Bigal4787
forum expert



United Kingdom
641 Posts

Posted - 11 September 2010 :  00:43:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't forget,when the OR assesses your I&E,they put it into a calculator which then splits the contributions made depending on your respective incomes, i.e. your salary is 71% of your total income, so your share of the mortgage payment will be shown as £415 and so on. Hope this makes sense!

Up until the 23rd July I was an insolvency examiner with the insolvency service!

Big Al
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