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Carl.lk
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Posted - 07 June 2012 :  16:10:34  Show Profile  Visit Carl.lk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Following a failed business i took up an IVA. Now with the Standard variable rate rising so drastically my mortgage has become unbearable. The IVA Company have offered to reduce by 15% but this would have little effect on our circumstances. There is absolutely no equity in my home. Now im looking into bankruptcy and Im wondering what are valuable assets exactly, could a relative purchase my home after repo? If not what becomes of my home. There will be a shortfall without doubt, Please help?

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Posted - 07 June 2012 :  16:29:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi and welcome.

How long have you been in your IVA? It may be possible to reduce your payments by more than 15% by having a variation meeting with your creditors.

Which IVA company are you with?

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Carlsob
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Posted - 07 June 2012 :  16:39:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have been with Grant Thornton for 18months. My big concern is that the shortfall on the house wont be included in the bankruptcy. would i be better selling privately and including shortfall in bankruptcy. Have been to CAB, CCCS, and Grant thornton and no one seems to have the answers

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Niobe
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Posted - 07 June 2012 :  16:45:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Your shortfall will be included in bankruptcy regardless of whether you sell privately or have the house repossessed.

Have you tried contacting Karol from GT who posts on the sister forum?

Send her an email via this:

Email ivacustomerservices@uk.gt.com and ensure that "IVA Forum" is all that is entered in the subject line of the email

I don't know if you are on the sister forum but if not then mention that you have posted on here and would appreciate a reply back to your personal email as soon as possible.

She may be able to help you.

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Carlsob
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Posted - 07 June 2012 :  17:59:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How long after bankrupt declaration do you have to leave the house or is it immediately?

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Niobe
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Posted - 07 June 2012 :  18:07:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you are looking to leave your house then I would suggest you find somewhere to rent now before you declare bankruptcy.

Do you want to keep your house?

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Posted - 07 June 2012 :  18:15:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
An important question here, is how much are you mortgage payments (and any other payments secured on the house) and how do they compare to local rental prices
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year 2029
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Posted - 07 June 2012 :  18:33:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If its your family home, you can be granted up to a year to find alternative housing if the OR wishes to sell.

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Carlsob
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Posted - 08 June 2012 :  11:25:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
my mortgage is around the same as rental prices but i then wouldnt have the iva payments to make so effectively would be better off. I was also wondering what does it mean when a relative buys the beneficial interest and how does this work?


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Niobe
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Posted - 08 June 2012 :  12:35:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You wouldn't have the IVA to pay but you could very well end up with an IPA which could be the same amount as your IVA payments.

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Carlsob
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Posted - 08 June 2012 :  14:09:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes but surely you have to have a reasonable amount to live on. were very low income family and we wont have much to spare after bills anyway?


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Niobe
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Posted - 08 June 2012 :  14:15:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you have more than £20 DI a month after your bills are paid then all of that will be taken in an IPA.

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Carlsob
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Posted - 08 June 2012 :  14:16:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
surely you have to be allowed more than £20 a month food, nappies, baby milk etc?

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Niobe
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Posted - 08 June 2012 :  14:19:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm talking about after you have paid your normal things such as food and all normal bills etc - an OR will go through what you are allowed to claim for. If, after that, you have more than £20 left then it will all be taken off you.

You do have allowances for all sorts of things, as you had in your IVA.

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Carlsob
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Posted - 08 June 2012 :  14:21:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thats better than current situation then. Cost of mortgage is now such that to pay that and iva would mean i couldnt pay normal bills

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Posted - 08 June 2012 :  22:25:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Carl,
One of your questions seems to have slipped by without being answered.
If a relative/friend buys the Beneficial Interest (BI) of your house, it removes your home from the bankruptcy estate.
If you are in negative equity, this is usually £1000 +vat. You can also wait until it is revalued 2 years and 3 months later, when the Official Receiver values it again and decides which way to go forward. If its still in negative equity, after 3 years it would be automatically handed back to you.

If you have equity, then you'd have to negotiate the amount payable.


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