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 Right where do I start....I made a bad property investment in Europe
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Mick.pw
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Posted - 16 July 2012 :  20:48:20  Show Profile  Visit Mick.pw's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Right where do I start....

I made a bad property investment in Europe, the bank will want the difference back from the auction sale of the property and what was left outstanding on the mortgage. By my calculations around €80,000, about £65K. It is now common knowledge that the bank has a UK Branch solely to chase UK residents fleeing their European financial commitments.

I plan to sell my house (for the true market value) and release the 80K equity in it, use the money to pay back loans to friends and family, then go bankrupt, will they ask where the money is? If I say its gone / spent, is there anything they can do?

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Viki.W
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Posted - 16 July 2012 :  20:54:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Mick,

Don't pay back family and friends and then declare bankruptcy as it will get very messy

How much do you owe them all? Yes, they can claim the money back from your family and friends, through the courts if necessary.

Please speak to an expert for advice as bankruptcy may not be the only option.



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Mick.pw
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Posted - 16 July 2012 :  21:20:40  Show Profile  Visit Mick.pw's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Viki

What I owe them (family) is only a tiny fraction really.

I was only using this as an excuse to where the money has gone.

Lets say, for example I spend the 80K on a lavish lifestyle buying no assets. Can this land me in trouble?

I feel quite angry at the European bank, they own half the development I bought on and due to low sales they won’t pay their community fees, which they are obliged too. In turn the place is falling down along with stagnating swimming pools. I don’t want them to see a penny (wow I sound bitter)

Thanks again

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Niobe
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Posted - 16 July 2012 :  22:31:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think a lot of us have nothing to show for what we spent. My money went on exotic holidays, cars and clothes.

I agree with Viki though that you should not favour your relatives over other creditors, much as you want to.

Ascend may you find no resistance
Know that you made such a difference
All you leave behind will live to the end
The cycle of suffering goes on
But memories of you stay strong
Someday I too will fly and find you again

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debtinfo
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Posted - 16 July 2012 :  23:00:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If I may offer you 2 thoughts to think long and hard about.

The first is this, when you are standing in front of the judge, the extent of your anger at the bank will be neither mitigation nor defence.

The second is this, no matter how you dress it up or how much money it comes with, involving your family in your criminality is not an act of kindness
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Niobe
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Posted - 16 July 2012 :  23:16:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You're right debtinfo - I misread the post and thought that he was talking about previous spending.

I totally agree.

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Mick.pw
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Posted - 17 July 2012 :  06:35:06  Show Profile  Visit Mick.pw's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by debtinfo


No matter how you dress it up or how much money it comes with, involving your family in your criminality is not an act of kindness



Ok, forgeting the family aspect. Standing in front of the judge, and they ask where the equity has gone from the sale of the house, and I say I have spent it (even though his may be 2 years down the line) is criminal, surely not?

Edited by - Mick.pw on 17 July 2012 06:35:35
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debtinfo
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Posted - 17 July 2012 :  06:48:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As part of the bankruptcy you will be asked to fill in documents and you will be interviewed, if you make false statements or omit the truth in either then it is perjury which is a criminal act and can be punished with a prison sentence
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Mick.pw
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Posted - 17 July 2012 :  07:03:17  Show Profile  Visit Mick.pw's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, of course thanks

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year 2029
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Posted - 17 July 2012 :  10:00:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Even if you say you have 'spent it', you will have to account within reason where the money has gone.

You will no doubt have to show your bank accounts to where this money had gone.

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