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Confused
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Posted - 17 October 2008 :  09:22:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Could someone provide me a list of what qualifies for

Needafriend
Junior Member

United Kingdom
344 Posts

Posted - 17 October 2008 :  09:35:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Confused

Have a look at this, its a little out of date but will give you a rough idea.

They dont seem to have a new one as of yet so make allowances inline with the current market etc.

http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/freedomofinformation/technical/TechnicalManual/Ch25-36/Chapter31/part7/part2/part_2.htm

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Confused
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Posted - 17 October 2008 :  13:02:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the link ļ


With the ¡§other possible essential expenses¡¨ are these normally allowed?
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Needafriend
Junior Member

United Kingdom
344 Posts

Posted - 17 October 2008 :  13:15:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Confused

Follow the guidelines and make sure you list everything that you actually pay for from your monies.

Obviously the guide i gave you is out of date with current prices but cost up yours and see what happens.

You can always once you work out roughly the I&E post onhere and we will have a look over for you, if you do that tell us how many in your home, your income etc.

Best of luck

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Confused
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Posted - 17 October 2008 :  13:20:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Jo
Can i email it to you or would i just post it on here>
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Confused
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Posted - 17 October 2008 :  13:55:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I did an expenditure sheet for an IVA i was left with 392.50 per month and the allowances I gave were:

Rent inc telephone and bills 360
Internet 15
Mobile 50
Housekeeping 110
Petrol 120
Servicing 20 (increase this if you need to £20 is the limit for IVA)
Car insurance 80
Car tax 13.50
Smoking 50 *
Clothing 28
Glasses 10
Dental treatment NHS 10
Dog insurance 42
Dog Care 10 *
Dog food 35 *
Hobbies 16 *
Sundries 11
Dry cleaning 10 *
Papers 5 *
Church/Charity 2 *
Hairdressing 10

TOTAL 1007.50



From this how much would I pay per month to the BR? My salary is £1400 per month. Is there anything i have missed which i could claim for? Are my allowances to high/to low
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Needafriend
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344 Posts

Posted - 17 October 2008 :  14:34:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Right car ins thats very high.
They dont allow smoking money.
What are sundries and also your rent including telephone is that a package or can you seperate for the form.
Internet they wont allow on its own add it to your phone package no more thany say 50 per month.
If you have a home phone some ORs dont allow mobiles but anything is worth a try.
Car service etc i would put up, dog insurance not sure if that will be allowed or the dog care, dog food should be included in your own food allowances.
Housekeeping for a single person i would have thought would be more, what were the guidelines again. Have a check on that one.




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369
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366 Posts

Posted - 17 October 2008 :  14:36:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rent inc telephone and bills 360
Internet 15 - you will prob not be allowed this
Mobile 50
Housekeeping 110 - you can put higher on this one - it is just for you?
Petrol 120
Servicing 20 (increase this if you need to £20 is the limit for IVA)
Car insurance 80
Car tax 13.50
Smoking 50 * - you wont be allowed this
Clothing 28
Glasses 10
Dental treatment NHS 10
Dog insurance 42
Dog Care 10 *
Dog food 35 * - this might be included in housekeeping
Hobbies 16 * - not sure if you would be allowed this either
Sundries 11 - what do you mean by this?
Dry cleaning 10 *
Papers 5 * - this would prob not be allowed
Church/Charity 2 * - might not be allowed
Hairdressing 10

could you add in other travel...?

If you are left with £392.50 - you will pay 50-70% of this towards an IPA....so you will pay about £200 - £250 to an ipa and be left with under £200 a month for everything else....

Hope this helps a little.....

Thanks
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Confused
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Posted - 17 October 2008 :  15:18:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
369 – Thanks for your input. As for travel what do you mean? I pay £52 per month direct from my salary for a bus pass to get to work so not sure what else I could add. Housekeeping is just me so could increase. Not sure what sundries is – it was included in the IVA so I have removed it.

Jo – thanks again. Rent is direct to my parents and includes everything. Car insurance is cheapest on the market for me (had two crashes). Allowance for housekeeping is £187 on the guidelines you provided so maybe slightly more now so I have upped that. I have removed smoking but left mobile in – if I am not allowed that maybe I could say I contribute £50 to the landline? How much could I crease car serving to? It does say pets may be allowed on evidence

Rent inc telephone and bills 360
Mobile 50
Housekeeping 184
Petrol 120
Servicing 20
Car insurance 83
Car tax 13.5
Clothing 28
Glasses 10
Dental treatment NHS 10
Hobbies 16

Dry cleaning 10
Papers 5
Church/Charity 2
Hairdressing 10
Dog insurance 42
Dog Care 10
Dog food 35
Outgoings
1008.5
Balance 391.5

Anything else I am missing guys?
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Confused
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Posted - 17 October 2008 :  15:21:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ALSO - has anyone's expenditure been questioned/majored revised?
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369
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366 Posts

Posted - 17 October 2008 :  16:15:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Confused,

Travel - oh ok so it comes off of your salary anyway - thought you would have travel in there somewhere...

People's have been altered before, usually the OR putting up things like household costs becasue of the recent credit issues..., it would seem though that even if you did add anything else in you would still have disposible income and therefore you would get an IPA for the next three years, if your Disposible income is under £100 you will not get one usually.

Im just trying to think if there is anything else you could include!!!
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BankruptC
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Posted - 17 October 2008 :  16:45:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi confused,

This is fresh in my mind as we've recently 'negotiated' (heavily!!) with our examiner to get our IPA's sorted. I've done loads of research into what they seem to be allowing/disallowing at the moment and will tell you how I see it. Here goes! :-)

Rent inc telephone and bills 360 (just put rent)
Mobile 50 (won't be allowed, but try 'telephone' as £50
Housekeeping 184 (try £220?)
Petrol 120
Servicing 20 (we were allowed £40 for 'spares and servicing')
Car insurance 83
Car tax 13.5
Clothing 28 (this is low. Try £60 or even more if you need suits for work)
Glasses 10
Dental treatment NHS 10
Hobbies 16 (won't be allowed)

Dry cleaning 10
Papers 5 (won't be allowed)
Church/Charity 2 (won't be allowed)
Hairdressing 10
Dog insurance 42 (the most I've seen allowed for pets is £20)
Dog Care 10 (unlikely to be allowed on top of the £20 pet ins)
Dog food 35 (will be included in housekeeping, I'd imagine)


Add:

Prescriptions 10
Domestic break 15
Any union fees?
Breakdown cover?

Hope that's helped somewhat! :-)

Take care,

C. x
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Thehitman1977
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United Kingdom
23 Posts

Posted - 18 October 2008 :  20:09:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi C.

Is there a limit on what you can put in for rent? There's myself and my son who will be moving to rented accommodation but its £500. Will the OR see this as excessive? Also, does housekeeping include shopping? If so what could i put down for the both of us?

Edited by - Thehitman1977 on 18 October 2008 20:09:54
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Skippy
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United Kingdom
3290 Posts

Posted - 18 October 2008 :  20:14:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If that's what your rent is I don't see that the OR will have a problem with it. Providing the house isn't way bigger than you need, and the rent isn't a great deal higher than others in your area you'll be ok.

Tomorrow is a mystery, yesterday is history, today is the present, a gift to make the most of.

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BankruptC
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1030 Posts

Posted - 18 October 2008 :  20:16:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi hitman,

I'd say as long as you don't plan to rent a five bed detached for the two of you and it's about average for the type of property for your area, there should be no problem.

Housekeeping does include food. How old's your son?

C. x
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Thehitman1977
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United Kingdom
23 Posts

Posted - 18 October 2008 :  21:04:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, its a good price, its a 3 bed terraced, you could probably pick up a 2 bed flat for that much...

He'll be turning 4 in March.
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