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xmas baby
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Posted - 10 August 2009 : 10:55:31
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Morning all,
I wonder if anyone had a similar experience and could comment on this please?
I went bankrupt in March this year and many of my debts were due to gambling. Almost immediately afterwards, I was banned nationally from Gala Casinos. This didn't bother me much as I seemed to be able to go to another casino in town without having to 'sign in' each time. However, at the weekend I was in the casino with a friend (who was actually playing and I was just watching), when the security guard came up, asked me my name and asked me to go with him outside. I was then met with the manager, who said I was no longer allowed in the premises. I asked him why and he said the gaming commission had been in touch with them and I was no longer welcome in the casino. I asked him if I would be allowed to come in with friends, even if I didn't play the machines and he said 'no'. The funny thing is, if I wasn't a member (like my friend), I would still be able to go in. It's only the fact that I'm a member and they have all your details when you join that they are able to track you down. The manager also said they had been monitoring me all night, which sounded horrible and very 'big brother'. I felt like a criminal and I hadn't even played or spent any money that night. I was purely just watching my friend and having a enjoyable night out for a change. The fact that I can play online gambling without any problem seems a joke. I never play online gambliing anyway and only went to the casinos for the atmosphere and maybe play a few goes on the roulette. No I am angry that the powers that be have decided where I can and cannot go, purely because of my bankruptcy. Had I known this, I would have spent far more money on gambling in the first place. It's also funny, but if I had amounted huge debts through drinking and drugs, I wouldn't have the same restrictions as gambling. I've also attending a gambling counsellor and I had reached a happy medium of tempering my gambling and I now looked on it as a once in a while form of entertainment and was happy to spend just £20 and when that was gone, it was gone.
I understand it isn't the casinos fault. They are just being pressured by the gaming commission and if they refuse, then they run the risk of losing their license. It's so unfair and very embarrasing when you are told to leave the premises like you have committed some kind of crime.
Has anyone else experienced this kind of thing and do you think I would continue to be barred even after my bankruptcy period comes to an end?
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gettingoutofdebt
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Posted - 10 August 2009 : 11:41:57
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Chances are that the casinos monitor the Insolvency Register in the same way that banks/creditors do so once you have been discharged, or drop off the register 3 months after being discharged, you may be ok.
I don't know if there is a law stopping casinos from having BR people on their books but the Gambling Act 2005 was introduced to try to help protect people from gambling addiction, etc. so it is probably frowned upon if a casino has BR people on their books.
You could always contact the casino anonymously and see if they will allow a discharged bankrupt to be a member. |
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RHB
Senior Member
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Posted - 10 August 2009 : 13:59:15
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I hate to say this, but if you are getting so uptight about this are you 100% sure you have got your habit under control? As an ex smoker, one of the times I most want to smoke is when I see others doing it. Alcholics also have to give up drink entirely, as it is a slippery slope.
Why get angry at the casinos who at the end of the day are acting in a manner that will negate the possibility of you getting into debt due to gambling again?
I think you need to talk all this out at your next counselling session, they are the ones who hopefully will help you make sense of the whole situation. |
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Jane.l
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Posted - 10 August 2009 : 14:37:18
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I have never been to a casino, nor would I want to but even once you are "off" the Insolvency Register, you can be found by searching the London Gazette, so I have read, although every time I have ever tried searching for myself, I can never be found! I should be glad, hehe
It does seem a bit unfair that you are not allowed in the building, even if you are not playing, I find that a bit OTT, but am not sure what you can do about it |
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xmas baby
Average Member
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Posted - 10 August 2009 : 16:05:57
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Thanks everyone for all your replies. Sorry I sounded so angery in the original posting, but I'm sure most of you agree that it doesn't seem fair that I'm not even allowed in the building, even if I don't gamble. To respond to the posting as to whether I would be too tempted, well yes I could be tempted and I never said I had stopped gambling. All I can say is that I now do it but only to my set budget and once that is gone, that is it. I just feels like I've been given an asbo in a sense (which I suppose I have). I will accept (begrudgingly) that I am banned during the duration of my bankruptcy, but if it is for life (or several years), then I would be very angry. After all, whats stopping me from gambling online or spending my money on the lottery? The strange thing is, no of these appeal to me. I just liked the atmosphere in a casino and could quite happily now just watch other people gambling. I know I deserve to be 'punished' in some way, but I really do believe this is too harsh and I now feel like a 'real' criminal.
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