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Nicola.j
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Posted - 09 July 2008 :  12:20:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry one more question.If they were to apply to get a charge put on the property would my 1st chargeholder (virgin) have to agree to it?

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Nicola.j
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 July 2008 :  16:01:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry me again.I thought I would clarify this debt is unsecured at the moment .I had two accounts with them one for french windows and one for a new back door.(Both of which I had no choice because I have been burgled four times in five years and they were points of entry for the burglars).
One account they have let me pay a minimum amount but they are now saying this was a mistake and they are going for a charge against the property or an attachment of earnings or county court judgement.Surely they can only do one and which do you think it will be as the debt is relatively small.The original payment ws around £25.00 a month which I cannot afford and has contributed to me deciding to declare myself bankrupt in august after I have found somewhere to rent in scotland.How long will the process take and do you think I will be able to declare myself bankrupt before they can do anything.
I am going to scotland either last week in july or first week in august .

Any advice would be greatly appreciated


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JulianDonnelly
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 July 2008 :  17:37:47  Show Profile  Visit JulianDonnelly's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Nicola,

Existing chargeholders have to be notified at least 21 days before the charging order hearing, thus giving them time to object. If no objection is received by the court, it is likely the judge will allow the order (unless the debt is in dispute).

Given the fact you are going BR in just over a month, they will be able to obtain a CCJ in that time, but no further action to enforce it before your BR.

However, I would suggest getting your BR done ASAP just for peace of mind.

Regards

Julian Donnelly
Spokesperson for www.Bankruptcyhelp.org.uk
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Nicola.j
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United Kingdom
267 Posts

Posted - 10 July 2008 :  08:32:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello
Thanks for advice.When I am finding a place to rent in scotland before br which I intend to to the week after next do I have to disclose to the agency that I am intending to go br.

Also one more question after I have found somewhere ,come back and tell virgin that I am handing the keys back and filing for bankruptcy how long after that will virgin require me to vacate the property.

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JulianDonnelly
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Posted - 10 July 2008 :  13:52:33  Show Profile  Visit JulianDonnelly's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Nicola,

I wouldn't advise disclosing your impending BR to the agents as they'll probably decline you on that basis (credit checks etc will be done).

If you voluntarily surrender your property, do it once vacated.

Regards

Julian Donnelly
Spokesperson for www.Bankruptcyhelp.org.uk
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Nicola.j
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United Kingdom
267 Posts

Posted - 10 July 2008 :  13:59:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Julian

Can you clarify for me

1.Will the agent be able to find out?

2.The advice that I have been given is to surrender the keys and then BR is that correct?

3.If I have to do it once vacated I will be in scotland so is it going to be ok to come back for the court/or.


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Nicola.j
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United Kingdom
267 Posts

Posted - 11 July 2008 :  13:07:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Further to my previous questions above.Will I have to get a valuation from an estate agent if I am going for voluntary repossesion before bankruptcy?

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JulianDonnelly
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United Kingdom
325 Posts

Posted - 11 July 2008 :  15:22:21  Show Profile  Visit JulianDonnelly's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Nicola.

1. Once you've gone BR, the agent will find out. However. as long as there's nothing in your AST regarding BR, you should be fine as you'll already be in your new property.
2. Go BR after the keys have been handed back. Make sure all secured debt is listed in the unsecured section of your SOA as well, and inform the OR at the meeting. That way, any shortfall can be included and written off in BR.
3. You have to attend the county court nearest to where you have lived for the past 6 months, so if you are going to go BR shortly after you move, get it done ASAP.
4. I wouldn't bother with a valuation as any shortfall wouild be included and written off in the BR anyway.

Hope this helps.

Regards

Julian Donnelly
Spokesperson for www.Bankruptcyhelp.org.uk
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Nicola.j
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United Kingdom
267 Posts

Posted - 11 July 2008 :  16:46:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks julian
Sorry to be a pain but I have never rented before.
One more question if I find a place I like and it gets to signing a tenancy agreement and there is someting in it regarding br what do I do then?

Thanks
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Nicola.j
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United Kingdom
267 Posts

Posted - 14 July 2008 :  15:13:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Please could someone answer my question above,looks like it has been lost.

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JulianDonnelly
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United Kingdom
325 Posts

Posted - 14 July 2008 :  16:55:39  Show Profile  Visit JulianDonnelly's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Nicola,

AST's are usually standard documents, but they do vary. The best thing to do it to read it thoroughly before signing it. If there is a clause regarding BR, it would entirely depend on what the clause states. If BR is a violation with that particular agent's AST, then I'm afraid you'd need to shop elsewhere.

Regards

Julian Donnelly
Spokesperson for www.Bankruptcyhelp.org.uk
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