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darren_b
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Posted - 17 September 2008 :  16:40:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello All,
one for the experts really, but feel free to chip in.

My wife and I are about to go BR, however due to a slight change in circumstance, we have a little bit of extra cash coming in.

Is there any point, in writing to all of our creditors, and offering to make a 55-70% payment of the debts over 5 years, asking them to write off the rest, and advising them that the only other option is bankrupcty, where they will get a lot less money?

Just to be aware, an IVA is not an option, simply as we require additional money each month, for personal reasons, that the IVA would not allow us (however even with an IPA, we would have more money in BR each month)

RHB
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Posted - 17 September 2008 :  16:45:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How do you know for definite that you will be allowed this money for personal reasons when you are BR?
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JulianDonnelly
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Posted - 17 September 2008 :  16:51:03  Show Profile  Visit JulianDonnelly's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Darren,

An IVA will be accepted for a minimum of 40% of the debt. With the extra money coming in, you can still go BR and you will contribute back to the creditors for 3 years by way of an IPA/IPO.

Julian Donnelly
Spokesperson for www.Bankruptcyhelp.org.uk
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dazed and confused
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Posted - 17 September 2008 :  16:54:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry to jump in on this thread but can someone still go for BR even if technically they could still afford to pay the minimum payments on their debts?
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darren_b
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Posted - 17 September 2008 :  17:02:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi RHB,

It wouldnt be that the BR would allow those additional expenditures, however, if the IPA took 70% of my additional income, I could still afford them with the remaining 30%.

Julian,
I have spoken to three different companies regarding IVA's and they have all agreed that it doesnt sound right for us - in Summary, I look after ill members of my family, and this does take additional money - however I do this voluntarily, not with them as a dependant. Any surplus income after an IPA in BR would be used towards this.

Thanks
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darren_b
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Posted - 17 September 2008 :  17:05:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I suppose the top and bottom of my question is - Is there any point in writing to the creditors asking if they will consider a paqrt payment over 5 years - to avoid an IVA/BR? Or would I simply be wasting 24 stamps???
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JulianDonnelly
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Posted - 17 September 2008 :  17:35:52  Show Profile  Visit JulianDonnelly's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Darren,

The issue here is they'll probably accept, and in 5 years time when you think it's over, they'll go after you for 5 years interest and penalty charges. Best to bit the bullett and get it over with now.


Julian Donnelly
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JulianDonnelly
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Posted - 17 September 2008 :  17:36:46  Show Profile  Visit JulianDonnelly's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi D&C,

If you can afford the payments on your debts, you are not insolvent and it's likely the judge will decline your petition for that reason. You have to be insolvent to declare BR.

Julian Donnelly
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RHB
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Posted - 17 September 2008 :  18:14:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you have aletter from the banks that they would accept your offer, they can't turn round & ask for more later. Just make sure you keep all copies & stop spending on those cards/accounts.
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darren_b
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Posted - 17 September 2008 :  21:52:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
WOuld that be correct Julian? If i have a written agreement from my creditors to say they accept my proposal, with no interest etc?
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John
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 September 2008 :  23:23:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi
no it's not correct I'm afraid.
Of course if you had such written agreement with each creditor they must keep to freezing the interest whilst the agreement is still in situ.
The problem is that any such agreement is informal and not recognised or therefore enforceable by the court. Thus any creditor can, at any time, during the duration of the agreement change their minds.

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Needafriend
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United Kingdom
344 Posts

Posted - 18 September 2008 :  07:20:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi just to add to Johns words i had an informal agreement with my ceditors, whereby they froze interest and all charges for about a year which we agreed with them and no one else but after that year they wanted more, they knew that it was not agreed through a company or court so they could do what they liked, i then had to make another descion and that was to go BR as i had no way of being able to offer anymore,we were struggling as it was.
Good luck

Jo x

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