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JW123
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Posted - 05 January 2012 :  15:48:04  Show Profile  Visit JW123's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I am after some advice for my mother who recently went bankrupt. 5 months previous to her bankruptcy my partners father lent her £3000 for flood damage which she then paid back. The official receiver is now saying this money needs to be paid back by my partners father as he was treated as a preferential creditor. I just wanted to find out if they can do this and how hard they can pursue him for the money

Melanie.n
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Posted - 05 January 2012 :  17:19:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If the Official Receiver, takes the stance that indeed the debt was repaid in 'preference' of her other creditors, then yes, they do have the right to demand repayment of the money, so that any funds of the estate may be paid on an euqoal/pro rata basis to all of her creditors.

Although I can completely understand why she repaid the money, it all depends on whether the OR takes the 'emotional vier' or a black and white view (to be honest the latter is usually the case, but it would be worth her putting a full explanation with regard to the debt, the necessioty at that time to borrow the money, whether it was lent on a short-term basis on the understanding that she would repay asap, etc and hopefully the oR will take a softer view on the matter. She has nothing to lose by putting it in writing to the OR - who knows it may work! stranger things have happened!

Sorry if this was not the response you expected to receive, Melanie

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Steve Thatcher
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Posted - 06 January 2012 :  11:02:00  Show Profile  Visit Steve Thatcher's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I agree with Melanie. I have in the past had similar situations. I have been able to overcome them but arguing that the money was lent on the strict proviso that as soon as it was able to be repaid it was done so. If this term was not agreed to then the money would not have been lent. By this way, we have been able to overcome the presumption that the repayment of money was a preference.

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JW123
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Posted - 07 January 2012 :  00:16:26  Show Profile  Visit JW123's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey thanks guys for your prompt responses. I think i will write a letter to the OR stating just that.

I do have have one question that is bugging me. I went bankrupt in 2010 and i didnt know anything about one creditor having 'preferance' over another, at that time. I paid off one creditor in full with a credit card (Yell.com) and to my knowledge the OR didnt take action to recover that payment, even though it was within the 6 month window, so is it case by case or can examples like this be used against the current action? I hope that makes sense. Thanks

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Essie
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Posted - 07 January 2012 :  01:17:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Good luck with this. please let me know how you get on. I did the same with very similar circumstances and the OR is trying to chase my terminally ill dad.

What I'd like to know is - if you paid the £3k to say - Natwest, would the OR ask Natwest for the money back?

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Viki.W
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Posted - 07 January 2012 :  08:36:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, Essie, they would.



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debtinfo
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Posted - 07 January 2012 :  10:14:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
well not quite for practical purposes, as you can imagine a company like Natwest is involved in many many bankruptcies in various forms, often unless it is very significant for example if the preference was £50,000 they would not bother as they would take in one case and give right back in another case where there was a distributon to creditors so it is not worth doing, especially as with an amount that low there is little benefit to other creditors as the bankruptcy costs come first as well as the fact that these major creditors often have a right of set off anyway

with a local or family creditor, they are unlikely to be involved in other bankruptcies
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Viki.W
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Posted - 07 January 2012 :  11:28:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks debtinfo, that clears that up and I stand corrected.



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